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	<title>Comments on: NZ at War: Killing in the Name of Religion</title>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 01:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Cameron, thanks for your comment. My apologies for getting your first name wrong. I&#039;ve corrected it in the post. On your other points:

Point 2: I&#039;m definitely not disputing the quality of the sights but I am disputing the bible references. The NZ Defence Force has raised the issue with the supplier and the supplier is providing new sights with no references so clearly it&#039;s not a big issue to remove them. If the guy who founded the company was Islamic and put Islamic references on them, would you still be happy? You&#039;re assuming that 100% of NZ soldiers are Christian. 

Point 3: It sounds like we both understand the need to kill the enemy in order to prevent extreme abuse and further loss of life. If we have to do this then yes, I absolutely believe we should do it without adding further insult! Is your argument that we should kill them AND insult them??? And you&#039;re saying &lt;em&gt;my&lt;/em&gt; argument is stupid? 

Point 4: Of course there&#039;s outrage. There&#039;s outrage by peaceful Islamic people who are angry that these extremists are representing their religion on an international stage through acts of violence. And I still don&#039;t understand your &quot;Well they&#039;re doing it so why can&#039;t we?&quot; attitude. Do you really need someone to explain why that approach to war won&#039;t end in a peaceful outcome?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Cameron, thanks for your comment. My apologies for getting your first name wrong. I&#8217;ve corrected it in the post. On your other points:</p>
<p>Point 2: I&#8217;m definitely not disputing the quality of the sights but I am disputing the bible references. The NZ Defence Force has raised the issue with the supplier and the supplier is providing new sights with no references so clearly it&#8217;s not a big issue to remove them. If the guy who founded the company was Islamic and put Islamic references on them, would you still be happy? You&#8217;re assuming that 100% of NZ soldiers are Christian. </p>
<p>Point 3: It sounds like we both understand the need to kill the enemy in order to prevent extreme abuse and further loss of life. If we have to do this then yes, I absolutely believe we should do it without adding further insult! Is your argument that we should kill them AND insult them??? And you&#8217;re saying <em>my</em> argument is stupid? </p>
<p>Point 4: Of course there&#8217;s outrage. There&#8217;s outrage by peaceful Islamic people who are angry that these extremists are representing their religion on an international stage through acts of violence. And I still don&#8217;t understand your &#8220;Well they&#8217;re doing it so why can&#8217;t we?&#8221; attitude. Do you really need someone to explain why that approach to war won&#8217;t end in a peaceful outcome?</p>
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		<title>By: Whaleoil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Whaleoil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 09:57:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Point one, my name is Cameron Slater not Christian Slater. Christian Slater is an actor.

Point 2: There isn&#039;t any pushing religion with a serial number on a rifle sight that happen to include a reference to the Bible. Those sight are simply the best available, it also happens that the owner of Trijicon is a christian and like to show that by making serial numbers with bible references in them.

Point 3: It seems that you are ok with killing the enemy, just that we don&#039;t insult them while we are doing it by having a little piece of writing on their rifle sights. Can you see the stupidity of your argument?

Point 4: I wonder why there isn&#039;t outrage at the Islamic and Koranic verses inscribed coverings on the preferred weapon of choice of the terrorist, the suicide bomber?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Point one, my name is Cameron Slater not Christian Slater. Christian Slater is an actor.</p>
<p>Point 2: There isn&#8217;t any pushing religion with a serial number on a rifle sight that happen to include a reference to the Bible. Those sight are simply the best available, it also happens that the owner of Trijicon is a christian and like to show that by making serial numbers with bible references in them.</p>
<p>Point 3: It seems that you are ok with killing the enemy, just that we don&#8217;t insult them while we are doing it by having a little piece of writing on their rifle sights. Can you see the stupidity of your argument?</p>
<p>Point 4: I wonder why there isn&#8217;t outrage at the Islamic and Koranic verses inscribed coverings on the preferred weapon of choice of the terrorist, the suicide bomber?</p>
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		<title>By: Tweets that mention NZ at War: Killing in the Name of Religion - New Zealand News and Opinion -- Topsy.com</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 01:13:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by marklincoln, Mark @ NZ:RAW. Mark @ NZ:RAW said: NZ at War. My opinion on the biblical references on gun-sights supplied to the NZDF http://bit.ly/65a5TJ [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by marklincoln, Mark @ NZ:RAW. Mark @ NZ:RAW said: NZ at War. My opinion on the biblical references on gun-sights supplied to the NZDF <a href="http://bit.ly/65a5TJ" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/65a5TJ</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 23:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your comments fellas and well said, both of you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comments fellas and well said, both of you!</p>
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		<title>By: Flux</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 23:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brilliant - why not make every war a holy war? Because the Crusades were known for their restraint and didn&#039;t drag on at all... Thanks, blinkered defense contractors!

Also, I&#039;m no Christian, but surely Jesus would have a problem with this too.  As a man of peace, the dude never bore a weapon, and now we&#039;re carving his words on ours? It seems a bit like branding your livestock with the PETA logo...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brilliant &#8211; why not make every war a holy war? Because the Crusades were known for their restraint and didn&#8217;t drag on at all&#8230; Thanks, blinkered defense contractors!</p>
<p>Also, I&#8217;m no Christian, but surely Jesus would have a problem with this too.  As a man of peace, the dude never bore a weapon, and now we&#8217;re carving his words on ours? It seems a bit like branding your livestock with the PETA logo&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: BlakJak</title>
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		<dc:creator>BlakJak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 23:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, have to say you&#039;ve nailed this one.
But that&#039;s strictly my _personal_ view on this subject.
I was a military brat and as the child of a serviceman, I guess I have my own set of biases in favour of neutral, objective and plain old &#039;fair&#039; use of military forces to keep the peace and defend the innocent victims, etc.  A bit romantic, perhaps, but I do feel that Religion should not be a crutch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, have to say you&#8217;ve nailed this one.<br />
But that&#8217;s strictly my _personal_ view on this subject.<br />
I was a military brat and as the child of a serviceman, I guess I have my own set of biases in favour of neutral, objective and plain old &#8216;fair&#8217; use of military forces to keep the peace and defend the innocent victims, etc.  A bit romantic, perhaps, but I do feel that Religion should not be a crutch.</p>
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